Minutes 1997/06/02
Invocation
Posting
Agenda
6987
Regular Meeting
June 2, 1997
Gilroy, California
Mayor Pro tempore Springer announced that Council had just adjourned from a
Closed Session re: Threat to Public Services, Consultation with Chief of Police,
pursuant to Gov't. Code Section 54957, and that no action had been taken.
Mayor Protempore Springer led the Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag.
Pastor Lee Neish, United Methodist Church, gave the Invocation.
The Interim City Clerk noted that the Agenda had been posted on May 29,
1997, at 11 :07 a.m.
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Roll Call
Bill
Lindsteadt
Consent
Calendar
Minutes
Minutes
Surplus
Equipment
Minutes
Bid-Police
Vehicles
Internet/
Pornography
Access-
Library
Present: Councilmembers: K. A. Mike Gilroy, Charles S. Morales, Connie
Rogers, Suellen C. Rowlison, Pete Valdez, Jr., and Thomas W. Springer - 7:02
p.m.
Noted a Presentation by Bill Lindsteadt, Executive Director, Economic
Development Corporation, regarding the frrst year successes of the EDC. Each
Councilmember offered their congratulations on his successes this year.
Motion was made by Councilman Morales, seconded by Councilman Valdez
and carried that the following items under the Consent Calendar be approved by
the following Roll Call Vote: Ayes: Councilmembers: K. A. Mike Gilroy, Charles
S. Morales, Connie Rogers, Suellen C. Rowlison, Pete Valdez, Jr., and Thomas W.
Springer:
Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting of Apri121, 1997;
Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting of Apri128, 1997;
Declared Equipment as Surplus to be Sold at Auction or Disposed of in the
Most Equitable Manner.
Minutes of the Regular Council Meeting of May 27, 1997.
City Administrator Baksa presented a recommendation to award the bid of
Bob Lynch Ford in the amount of$146,009.00 for six Crown Victoria Ford
Sedans and the bid of Marx Chevrolet in the amount of$173,378.46 for six
Chevrolet Tahoe Police Vehicles.
Motion was made by Councilwoman Rowlison, seconded by Councilman
Morales and the motion carried that the bid by Bob Lynch Ford in the amount of
$146,009.00 be awarded for six Crown Victoria Ford Sedans and the bid of Marx
Chevrolet in the amount of$173,378.46 be awarded for six Chevrolet Tahoe
Police Vehicles.
Mayor Protempore Springer noted that the Council will entertain a discussion
of the Internet and Pornography Access at the Library. He explained that the
Council may formulate a position and forward a recommendation to the Joint
Powers Authority (JP A).
Councilwoman Rogers, Gilroy representative to the Library JPA, reviewed the
concerns of the JP A with regard to the availability of pornography, chatroorns, and
other aspects of the Internet which may not be healthy for our children.
Bob Brentnall, South Valley Internet, gave a brief description of the Internet
and the World Wide Web.
Councilman Valdez questioned whether we can control access to the web, and
was told that can be done only by isolating areas such as continents.
Susan Fuller, Santa Clara County Librarian, stated that the libraries are
governed by a JP A with a councilmember from each of the nine member cities
sitting on it. She stated that the library has a broad, diverse collection, and that it
is the patrons' responsibility is to use it wisely, and children to do so with their
parent's assistance. She noted the request to put ftlters on the computers at the
library, stating that the library is not a gatekeeper, and the policy is to allow users
to make independent decisions.
Councilman Gilroy questioned whether certain obscene materials may be
available at the library, and was told that the library carries a wide variety of
materials on many subjects.
Councilmember Valdez questioned why pornographic videos are not available,
and was told that there is not a great interest in this type of video, and that they
make selections on the basis of cost and other criteria.
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Councilmember Morales stated that he had checked out the Internet Yellow
Pages and found that a lot of the information is not educational in his opinion.
Mayor Protempore Springer questioned the children's area of the library, and
Ms. Fuller explained that the goal is to provide a wide range of subjects.
Lani Yoshimura explained the use of the Internet at the library and the
assistance that the Staff provides, including bookmark setup.
Councilwoman Rowlison asked if a single terminal could be blocked and was
told that they could not since they are all linked together throughout the County.
Councilman Valdez questioned who changes the policy, and was told that the
JP A changes the policy.
Ann Ravel, Counsel to the Library, stated that it is a public forum and the First
Amendment protects access to the materials. She noted that it is unconstitutional
to stop providing materials or have censorship once it has been provided.
Mike questioned whether the library is exempt from Penal Code #313.1, and
Mrs. Ravel stated that she believes it is and noted that the District Attorney has
found that to be the case in this County as well.
City Attorney Callon stated that she is not as confident as the County Counsel
is that that is the result at this time. She noted that with the new media, with the
electronic age, that this is an unsettled area of the law. She stated that County
Counsel is on point that the library is afforded great dignity in the system as being
a purveyor of education and information. She stated that she is not sure how the
courts will come down on this issue.
Mayor Protempore Springer called for a recess at 8:40 p.rn. and reconvened
the meeting at 8:50 p.m.
Heard from the following citizens:
Sandi Zappa, Gilroy, explained the law fIrms that she has been working with,
and the exemptions that are available for libraries. She noted that the Gilroy
Municipal Code Section 14.3 explains that obscene materials shall not be displayed
to minors. She also cited other State and County codes with similar wording. She
noted that she has 1,200 signatures of Gilroy citizens and 200 signatures from
citizens outside the area opposed to library access to Internet pornography.
Cynthia Walker, 7233 Hanna Street, Gilroy, reviewed options available to limit
library access to the Internet sites.
Bill Rink, 8990 Rancho Hills Drive, stated that he writes Internet programs and
works with the Internet. He explained fIltering systems that are placed on
gateways throughout systems. He noted AB 295, a bill regarding fIltering systems.
He stated that Kern County is currently using a fIltering system.
Matthew Drummond, Gilroy, stated that he is opposed to Internet access at the
Library for porno graphy. He noted that the JP A deceived everyone by fIrst placing
a text based Internet access in the Library, and then upgraded it to include graphics
without telling anyone. He stated that the Internet could have been fIltered at the
beginning of the program. He stated that the Library should be cited under City
Code Section 39.8. He stated that the JPA is meeting on Thursday afternoon with
an agenda item regarding litigation, but that Susan Fuller nor the County Counsel
would discuss this item with him.
Leo Moser, Gilroy, opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Tony Sudol, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for pornography.
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Robert Estorga, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Miriam Williams, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
Pornography
Margaret Garsez, Howard Avenue in Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the
Library for pornography
Annette Vargas, read a letter from Shawn Howes, Gilroy, opposed to blocking
Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Lisa Silacci, Gilroy teacher, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography
Karen Aplund, Gilroy, opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Connie Malone, unincorporated area of Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at
the Library for pornography.
Bernadette Arellano, Gilroy, opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library
for pornography.
Bill O'Connor, Gilroy, opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Cort Jensen, Bishop, Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormon
Church), opposed to Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Karen Wright, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Jose Avela, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Rachelle Arellano,7100 Potomac Place, opposed to blocking Internet access at
the Library for pornography.
Shawn Shunaman stated the Library should just block the children's section.
Tosh Phillips asked that the congregation remember the separation of church
and state, and noted she is opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Maisha Rodrigues, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Silvia Rodrigues, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Pamela Jones, Gilroy, stated that she is against pornography, but opposed to
blocking Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Cynthia Walker explained the issue of the harmful matter and obscene matter
situations and noted that parents are exempted, meaning that parents are allowed
to give pornography to their children.
Patty Rink, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Craig Gartman, Gilroy, stated that filters can be broken very easily. He stated
that he is opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Lael McCormack, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
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Mary Yates, Carmel Street, Gilroy, opposed to blocking Internet access at the
Library for pornography.
Carol Smith, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Bob Wise, Gilroy, opposed to Internet access at the Library for pornography.
Guadalupe Arellano, 325 Old Gilroy Street, opposed to blocking Internet
access at the Library for porno graphy.
Sandi Zappa noted that regarding telephone messages, that in the Supreme
Court in 1989 regarding dial-a-porn, obscene speech is not protected by the First
Amendment and obscene speech is not allowed on dial-a-porn.
Cecil Taylor, Gilroy, opposed to blocking Internet access at the Library for
pornography.
Eric Smith, Gilroy, stated this is not a censorship issue. He stated that no
where else in the State of California is there any other public building where
children can go and access illegal pornography legally, except in the public libraries
of California.
At 11: 17 p.m. the Mayor Protempore called a recess, after which he
reconvened the meeting at 11 :25 p.m.
Councilwoman Rowlison stated she prefers to shield our children from
pornography, and our energy should go towards doing something about the
source. She stated she would like the Council to direct staff to send a letter to the
Joint Powers Authority or the Board of Supervisors to give a summary of the
issues and the viewpoints of the Council.
Councilman Gilroy stated that we legislate morality all the time, and it is not a
censorship issue. He stated the library should obey the same laws as everyone
else, and noted that the Council should take a strong position on this to direct staff
to take legal remedies.
Councilwoman Rogers thanked everyone for coming, staying late, and sharing
their concerns. She stated she supports Councilwoman Rowlison's suggestion of
sending a summary letter of testimony of participants and testimony of the City
Council to the JPA. She stated she is against pornography, but education is really
the only answer to difficult questions. She stated we need to shield the children,
but noted it is the parents who should do that. She stated that children need to
learn from their mistakes. She emphasized we need to go after the source, to
prevent pornography from going on the Internet.
Councilman Morales stated that in his position working for probation, he sees
mentally and physically abused children. He stated physically and sexually abused
children make up a large number of the children he sees. He stated the Internet is
a great educational opportunity. He stated that we should address the issues and
filter the pornography.
Councilman Valdez stated everyone agrees that pornography for children is
wrong. He stated he took this job to defend the First Amendment and the
Constitution of the United States. He noted the Supreme Court interprets the
Constitution when it is challenged. He stated that everyone tonight exercised their
right to freedom of speech. He stated that when the Internet access was begun,
this was the time for censorship, but we missed the boat and technology has now
overpowered us. He stated the Library should not be a forum for access to
pornography, but rather the Supreme Court needs to regulate pornography on the
Internet. He stated this Council needs to take a unanimous stance against the
accessibility to minors of pornography on the Internet. He stated that letters
shouid. nt. s~nt to legislators, Congress, the President, and the Supreme Court,
statitrg that Gilroy will not put up with pornography. He recommended we
send the videotape to the JP A for them to review.
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Mayor Protempore Springer stated no government agency can or will control
the Internet, because no government will accept controls from another country.
He stated he believes that no information should be censored at the library. He
commented that the terminals in the children's area of the library should have
fIlters, but that no fIlters are perfect. He stated with the library terminals open to
the public, unsolicited information will in the future be sent to those terminals. He
noted we have an obligation to protect our children, but he is not against restrict-
ing adults from access at the library. He stated he would like the JPA to recognize
that libraries exist to serve the community and should work with the community to
meet the needs of the community to put fIlters on the children's area computers.
Motion was made by Councilwoman Rogers, seconded by Councilman Valdez,
and the motion carried unanimously that the City of Gilroy opposes the access of
pornography on the Internet by minors.
Motion was made by Councilman Gilroy, seconded by Councilman Valdez, and
the motion carried unanimously that the City of Gilroy requests of the JP A that all
lawful means be employed to prevent access to pornography on the Internet by
minors and that they report back to us their progress.
Motion was made by Councilman Valdez, seconded by Councilman Morales
and the motion carried unanimously to direct staff and our representative to the
JP A to track these issues and to bring them back to us as the issues move through
the courts and through the legislations to keep us informed.
Motion was made by Councilman Valdez, seconded by Councilwoman Rogers,
and the motion carried unanimously to give this information to all legislators,
including the eight member City Councils, the County, State, Federal governments
both Senate and House of Representatives, including the Governor and President.
Comments were made by Councilman Gilroy that ifwithin 90 days the Library
stays on its current course and takes no action on this issue, that this issue be
reagendized to direct staff to research options available to us for recourse.
Mayor Protempore Springer asked if there was anyone in the audience wishing
to speak on any item not on the agenda.
Eric Smith stated that he does not see the JP A taking any action on the above
issue, and questioned whether there is anything else the City can explore or do?
The following informational items were noted with no separate discussion on
same:
Letters in Support of AB 1031 - To Require Juvenile and Adult Gang
Members to Register with the Police When They Are Released From Jail;
Customer Service:
Letter of Thanks from South County Housing for a Review of Fire Safety for
~nr ~hildren at the Redwoods Apartments;
League of California Cities Legislative Bulletin #19-1997 dated May 23, 1997;
Request for a Letter of Support from Assemblymember Peter Frusetta on
behalf of Resources for Families and Communities (RFC) in Santa Clara County
for RFC's Request for Proposal to be a "Wellness Village";
Information from the Cultural Plan Steering Committee Regarding the Cultural
Plan Update;
Letter from the Coalition for Responsible Social Services and Quality
Neighborhoods Regarding Opposition to the City of San Jose's Proposed Group
Home Ordinance and R-l Amortization Pilot Program; and
SCRWA
2-25-97
SCRWA
3-25-97
Adjrnmt.
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Building Community in America's Inner Cities: Block by Block, A KQED
Presentation.
The minutes of the South County Regional Wastewater Authority Meeting of
February 25, 1997 were noted.
The minutes of the South County Regional Wastewater Authority Meeting of
March 25, 1997 were noted.
City Administrator Baksa reported on the recruitment for the City Clerk
position, noting an assessment center to be held on June 17, in which the oral
board will consist of three parts including a Professional portion made up of three
City Clerks from three cities, an internal board made up of three Department
Heads and a Citizen's group. He noted that on June 16 we can hold a closed
session at the end of the meeting to decide how to deal with the personnel issue.
Councilwoman Rogers stated that the Downtown clean up day went well.
Councilman Valdez stated that CalTrain will be celebrating its Fifth
Anniversary on June 30, 1997 and a special train will arrive in Gilroy between
noon and 1 :00 p.m.
Councilman Morales noted that the Gilroy Hispanic Chamber of Commerce
will be sponsoring a free pancake breakfast and farmer's market on Saturday, June
14 at 7:00 a.m. with the proceeds going to the Gilroy Train Depot restoration. He
noted that if anyone wants to reserve a booth they should call Barbara Martinez
Smith at South Valley Disposal and Recycling at 842-3358 or John Kilcoyne at
847-7490.
Mayor Protempore Springer noted the following meetings:
Study session of the Gilroy City Council on Wednesday, June 11, 1997, 7 :00
p.m., Gilroy Senior Center, 7371 Hanna Street, Gilroy, California 95020
regarding Discussion of Economic Development Strategies.
Special meeting of the Gilroy City Council on Monday, June 16, 1997, from
6:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. in the Gilroy City Council Chambers, City Hall, 7351
Rosanna Street, Gilroy, California for an Appeal Hearing From the Decision of the
City Administrator to not renew Bar Permit No. 101222 for Club Nemesis.
Joint Study Session of the Gilroy City Council, Parks and Recreation
Commission, and Golf Course Advisory Committee on Tuesday, June 17, 1997,
7:00 p.m., Council Chambers, City Hall, 7351 Rosanna Street, Gilroy, California
95020 regarding Discussion of the Golf Course Construction and Operations
Options.
Retirement Party for Susanne Steinmetz, Saturday, June 28, 1997,6:00 p.m.,
Gilroy Veteran's Building, 74 W. Sixth Street, Gilroy, California.
Joint Study Session of the Gilroy City Council and Planning Commission on
Monday, July 14, 1997 at 7:00 p.m. in the Council Chambers, City Hall, 7351
Rosanna Street, Gilroy, California 95020 regarding the City's Affordable Housing
Policy and Discussion ofthe "Infill" Exemption for the Residential Development
Ordinance.
At 12:47 a.m., June 3, 1997, Mayor Pro tempore Springer adjourned the
m~~ting.
Respectfully submitted,
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Rhonda Pellin, Interim City Clerk